① 他说过的话

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那是因为它们全都是针对测试去训练的。所以我们有一个理念：真正重要的是现实。现实是唯一一个你真正能信得过的裁判。
That’s because they all trained to the test. And so we had this philosophy that it’s really about reality. Reality is the only judge that you can actually trust.
—— Anastasios Angelopoulos · [03:35]

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不应该是某个自以为聪明的家伙随便搞出来的什么破基准测试。
There shouldn’t be some random f**ing benchmark that’s made by some dude that thinks they’re smart.*
—— Anastasios Angelopoulos · [06:28]

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它通过提供效用来衡量效用。关键在于，用户激励和平台激励完美一致，因为我们是在试图衡量效用。
It’s measuring utility by providing utility. The point is that the user incentive and the platform incentive are perfectly aligned because we’re trying to measure utility.
—— Anastasios Angelopoulos · [09:06]

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人们就是没理解到，AI 因为会改变每一个行业，所以会带来百花齐放。
People are just not understanding that AI, because it transforms every industry, is going to lead to many flowers blooming.
—— Anastasios Angelopoulos · [04:48]

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但我认为现在开始出现的头号事情是闭源模型和开源模型之间的相变。
But I think the number one thing that’s starting to happen now is there’s a phase shift between closed and open models.
—— Anastasios Angelopoulos · [13:19]

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你知道，我认为美国人还没有充分认识到来自中国科学家的智慧和创造力。
You know, I don’t think Americans are fully appreciating the intelligence and creativity that’s coming from Chinese scientists.
—— Anastasios Angelopoulos · [14:24]

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我要花 50 亿美元训练一个前沿模型，然后我就这么把它免费送出去。听起来很蠢，对吧？
I’m going to spend $5 billion training a frontier model and then I’m just going to give it away. Sounds stupid, right?
—— Anastasios Angelopoulos · [17:01]

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如果有两个，我们也只是勉强撑着。我们想要 10 个。我们想要 50 个。
And if we have two, we’re barely making it. We want 10. We want 50.
—— Anastasios Angelopoulos · [45:01]

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顺便说一句，我看多的一件事是 OpenAI 上的消费者广告市场，这显然至今还没有被充分开发利用，但我认为它仍然是 AI 领域最大的机会之一。
By the way, one thing I’m long is the consumer ads marketplace on OpenAI, which has obviously not been fully utilized to this day, but I think remains one of the biggest opportunities in AI.
—— Anastasios Angelopoulos · [40:27]

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胜率接近 100%。而且顺便说一句，要让人们在任何事情上达成一致几乎是不可能的。
It was nearly a 100% win rate. And by the way, it’s almost impossible to get people to agree on anything.
—— Anastasios Angelopoulos · [38:57]

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而整个游戏的关键就在于选择正确的价值系统。我们的价值系统是对真实的人有用。
And the whole game is about picking the right value system. And so our value system is a utility to real people.
—— Anastasios Angelopoulos · [58:30]

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