Patrick Debois
① 他说过的话
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就像如果我只是让它生成,那将是垃圾。如果我把我自己的上下文给它,像我的策展、我的品味、我的 harness,它就会说,嗯,不要供应商之类的东西,或者它必须有四个声音。
指向原始笔记的链接
Like if I would just have it generate, it will be rubbish. If I had like my own context to it, like my curation, my taste, my harness, it would be say, well, not vendors or kind of like things or like it has to have four voices.
—— Patrick Debois · [12:35]
就像产品内的 AI,大概比在组件上进行 AI 编码领先两年。他们已经有了评估系统,已经有了可观测性系统。
指向原始笔记的链接
Like AI product, AI inside the product is probably two years ahead from AI coding on components. They already have the eval system, they already have an observability system.
—— Patrick Debois · [17:13]
我们是冲着写代码来的,不是冲着做一个光鲜的提示词规范编写者来的。
指向原始笔记的链接
We signed up for the coding, we didn’t sign up for a glorified prompter as specification.
—— Patrick Debois · [23:53]
我认为不管是现在的 AI 还是敏捷或任何变化,听起来很难,但在开始时不要在消极的事情上花时间。找到成功的故事。如果你不能让它成功,其余的都不会起作用。
指向原始笔记的链接
I think regardless whether this is now AI or like agile or any change, um, as hard as it sounds, do not spend time on the negatives in the beginning. Find the success story. If you can’t make that work, the rest will not work.
—— Patrick Debois · [33:58]
如果我现在要提出一个衡量指标,那就是这些人有多少在为共享组件做贡献、在修复系统,而不是使用更多或拥有一个工具。
指向原始笔记的链接
If I were to put one measurement right now is how much these people are contributing to the shared components and they’re fixing the system instead of kind of using more or having a tool.
—— Patrick Debois · [36:51]
我们当初入行不是为了这个。不是为了写更好的提示词、写更好的规格说明。我们是工程师。
指向原始笔记的链接
We didn’t sign up for this. We didn’t sign up for better prompting, writing better specs. We’re engineers.
—— Patrick Debois · [03:11]
我想是 Swix 几年前说过的:别再构建那个东西了,而是构建那个构建东西的东西,对吧?
指向原始笔记的链接
I think it was Swix a couple of years who said it, like, stop building the thing, but build the thing that builds the thing, right?
—— Patrick Debois · [05:44]
这不是一个人变成 10 倍强者所带来的乘数效应,而是对智能体进行优化的一项改变,会对所有人产生影响。
指向原始笔记的链接
This is not the multiplier from the one person becoming the 10x person, but the one change that optimizes the agents has an impact on all the people.
—— Patrick Debois · [10:05]
如果你能改进它,归根结底,重点不是让整个系统更可靠,而是我能否在改动系统更多部分的同时保持可靠?
指向原始笔记的链接
And if you can improve that, ultimately, it’s not about making the whole system more reliable, but can I keep it reliable while changing more of the system?
—— Patrick Debois · [20:55]
我认为如果说有一个要点的话,那就是赢得比赛的不会是单人玩家。
指向原始笔记的链接
And I think if there’s one takeaway, it’s not the solo player that will win the game.
—— Patrick Debois · [21:33]
② 出现在这些集
2 集
- 《DevOps 之父 Patrick Debois:AI 时代组织比技术更难成熟》 — 作为联合主持
- 《黑灯工厂来了:赢的不是单人玩家,是会改组织的团队》 — 作为嘉宾
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