① 他说过的话

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如果你把所有东西都写在同一个代码库里、同一种语言里,那不可避免地你会写得有点草率,你会把不该纠缠的东西纠缠在一起。
And if you write everything in the same code base, in the same language, it’s like inevitably you’re going to be a little bit sloppy and you’re going to intertwine things more than you should.
—— Tibo Sottiaux · [19:54]

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为什么要强迫你彻底改变你的整个环境,就为了试一个新模型?
Why force you to go and completely change your setup just to try a new model?
—— Tibo Sottiaux · [26:31]

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从某种意义上说,harness 总是比模型领先一点。
So the harness, in a sense, is always a little bit ahead of the model.
—— Tibo Sottiaux · [36:27]

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如果你在做某件事,而且你在搭建一个一万行的代码拐杖来绕过模型的缺陷,那你很可能在做错误的事情。
If you’re doing something and you’re building like this 10,000 lines of code crutch to work around the model flaws, you’re probably doing the wrong thing.
—— Tibo Sottiaux · [42:29]

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但出人意料的是,无论你是在 Codex 还是 ChatGPT 上发布,流程都很相似——尽管 ChatGPT 推向十亿活跃用户而且还在增长,你可以提交一个 PR、做一个改动,第二天甚至同一天发布,它就推向十亿用户,而且没问题。
But it’s surprisingly a similar process, whether you ship on Codex or ChatGPT, even though ChatGPT goes out to a billion active users and growing, you can ship a PR, you can make a change and get it shipped the next day or even the same day, and it just goes out to a billion users and it’s fine.
—— Tibo Sottiaux · [43:33]

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当我们做基准测试时,它们在代码评审上是超越人类的。
When we benchmark them, it’s like they’re superhuman in code review.
—— Tibo Sottiaux · [47:53]

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维护其实就像一种你随时间支付、只为让事情保持运转的税。
Maintenance is really like sort of like a tax that you pay over time just to keep things running.
—— Tibo Sottiaux · [51:35]

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回到那个带有不变量的盒子,如果你画出正确的形状,你就能在盒子内更快地改变东西,而不影响其余的服务或其余的基础设施。
Going back to having the box with invariants, if you draw the right shape, you’re going to be able to change things much more quickly within the box and not affect the rest of the services or the rest of your infrastructure.
—— Tibo Sottiaux · [53:16]

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如果你无法解释你想要达成什么,如果你无法解释你的意图,如果你没有与一个社区的联结,如果你没有品味,做出出色的工作会难得多。
Like if you can’t explain what you’re trying to achieve, if you can’t explain your intent, if you don’t have a tie to a community, if you don’t have the taste, it’s going to be much harder to do great work.
—— Tibo Sottiaux · [70:55]

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通常，当我看外面人们在构建的东西时，感觉就是你还没完全领会。如果你只是逼一逼自己，真正去想象这一切在一年内比今天大约好上 10 倍，你就会用不同的方式去构建。
Often, when I look at what people are building out there, it’s just like you’re not quite getting it. If you were just pushing yourself and just really imagining all of this being roughly 10 times better than it is today in a year, you would build in a different way.
—— Tibo Sottiaux · [00:00]

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互联网上的大多数操作将由智能体来执行。
The majority of actions on the internet will be taken by agents.
—— Tibo Sottiaux · [00:17]

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必须去搭建和摆弄你的 loops,这也许是让人们感到兴奋的事，但我不认为这会是它最终运作的方式。
Having to set up and fiddle with your loops is something that maybe people get excited about, but I don’t think this is the way that it’s going to work.
—— Tibo Sottiaux · [00:46]

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我迫不及待想看到这一切成为现实，因为我觉得随身到处带着笔记本电脑就像带着一块砖，是你在迁就技术，而不是技术在为你服务。
I can’t wait for that to come to fruition, because I think just carrying your laptop as this brick around everywhere is just you’re tied to the technology instead of the technology working for you.
—— Tibo Sottiaux · [04:55]

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我觉得被忽视的黑马是生态系统，也就是把一切开放，以及我们对开放一切所做出的深度的承诺。
I think the sleeper hit is a ecosystem, so opening it all up and the commitment, the deep commitment we have towards opening it all up.
—— Tibo Sottiaux · [11:51]

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我们可能不再有程序员了，但我们拥有的建造者比以往任何时候都多。
We may not have coders anymore, but we have more builders than ever.
—— Tibo Sottiaux · [17:10]

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在我加入 OpenAI 最早的时候，第三天我就把生产环境搞挂了。
Very, very earliest for me at OpenAI, I took production down day three.
—— Tibo Sottiaux · [30:25]

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我们在 API 栈上的大部分投入,实际上是投入到安全栈上的。
The majority of our investment on the API stack is actually going into the safety stack.
—— Tibo Sottiaux · [34:58]

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如今大部分代码是由 Astra 写的。
The majority of the code these days is written by Astra.
—— Tibo Sottiaux · [10:27]

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再说一次，我们可以建造所有这些东西，你知道，但是，我们是否应该建造所有这些东西？
And again, we can build all these things, you know, but like, should we build all these things?
—— Tibo Sottiaux · [34:36]

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② 出现在这些集

3 集

• 《Codex 负责人亲述:OpenAI 内部如何造编程智能体》 — 作为主持
• 《OpenAI Codex 负责人 Tibo:互联网上大多数操作将交给智能体》 — 作为主持
• 《OpenAI产品负责人：不想让人类成为AI的「事后想起」》 — 作为联合主持

③ 他谈到的

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