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Claire Vo

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人们在 OpenClaw 上跌跌撞撞的地方在于,他们读到 OpenClaw 正在经营我的业务,他们以为可以把任何任务扔给单个智能体并获得出色的结果。
Where people stumble with OpenClaw is they read about OpenClaw is running my business, and they think they can throw any task at a single agent and get great results.
—— Claire Vo · [41:00]

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思考如何让最终用户感觉像赢家是构建有用智能体的一个非常强大的模式。
thinking about how do I make the end user feel like a winner is a really powerful model to build a useful agent.
—— Claire Vo · [55:24]

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我不会粉饰太平。设置起来很麻烦。你得喂养并维护你的 Claws。它并不是全自动的,但价值太大了,我愿意忍受这种痛苦。
I won’t sugarcoat it. It’s a pain to set up. You got to feed and maintain your Claws. It is not hands-off, but the value is so high, I am willing to go through the pain.
—— Claire Vo · [62:59]

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目前的网络对智能体很不友好。我们将不得不重新思考什么是网络的界面,以变得更对智能体友好,因为我认为我们快进几年,网站的第一大用户将会是人们的智能体。
the web is hostile to agents right now. And we’re going to have to rethink what is the interface of the web to be more agent friendly because I think we skip ahead a couple years and the number one user of websites are going to be people’s agents.
—— Claire Vo · [64:50]

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这就是我在这些工具上如此成功的原因是因为我有 20 年以上的管理经验。我知道如何让员工成功。这就是你需要让这些智能体工作的东西。
that is why I have been so successful with these tools is because I have 20 years plus of management experience. I know how to make an employee successful. That is what you need to make these agents work.
—— Claire Vo · [86:29]

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我现在称之为软件工程的垃圾桶法,在那里你实际上可以丢弃所有代码,就像开始一个 slash V2 分支并从头开始重建它。
I call this the trashcan method of software engineering right now, where you can actually trash all the code, start like a slash V2 branch and rebuild it from scratch.
—— Claire Vo · [00:57]

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也许文档是存在的,但它们是给智能体的,不是给人类的。
maybe docs exist, but they’re for the agents, not for the humans.
—— Claire Vo · [44:19]

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是时候让硬技能再次现身了,而不是领导力、感召力、对齐。
it’s time for the hard skill to show up again, not leadership, inspiration, alignment.
—— Claire Vo · [47:03]

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主动提示 Claude 说,比如,我不明白你在这里说什么。我们能一起定义它吗?然后我会把它保存到我的上下文中,我就会知道你在说什么。从此往后真的非常犀利,也是我们在播客中还没见过的东西。
Actually proactively prompting Claude to say, like, I don’t understand what you’re talking about here. Can we define it together? And then I’ll save it to my context and I’ll know what you’re talking about. Moving forward is really, really sharp and something we haven’t seen on the podcast yet.
—— Claire Vo · [18:14]

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即便是在公司层面,我告诉人们的一件事是,听着,你必须经历转换系统的痛苦。而且它不会那么高效。是的,当然,旧的方式会更快,因为那是肌肉记忆。但如果你进入下一个层级,不仅你会有一个更适合你的系统,而且每个人都会有更多技能。
One of the things, even at a company level, that I tell people is, look, you’ve got to go through the pain of switching your systems. And it’s not going to be as efficient. And yes, of course, the old way will be faster because it’s muscle memory. But if you get to the next level, not only will you have a system that works better for you, but everybody will have more skills.
—— Claire Vo · [24:15]

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我用 AI 是为了让我离开电脑,而不是待在电脑前。
I use AI to get me off my computer, not on my computer.
—— Claire Vo · [00:00]

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比如听着,你最高的使命从来就不是在 Figma 里设计渐变填充。
Like look, your highest calling was never to design gradient fills in Figma.
—— Claire Vo · [01:00]

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所以我把这称为软件开发中的垃圾桶方法,也就是抱着扔进垃圾桶完全不心疼的前提去构建东西。
And so the thing that I call this like the trash, trash can method of software development, which is like building things with the presumption that it is totally inexpensive.
—— Claire Vo · [29:38]

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