① 他说过的话

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剧透警告，人类才是问题所在。
Spoiler alert, the humans are the problem.
—— Zach Lloyd · [01:11]

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我认为代码审查变成了一种风险管理练习。
I think code review becomes an exercise in risk management.
—— Zach Lloyd · [17:04]

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我现在仍然在频繁地发布产品，但过去六个月里我一行代码都没写。
I am still shipping frequently, but I haven’t written a line of code in the last six months.
—— Zach Lloyd · [00:40]

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软件工程这门学科将会变成某种更像工厂工程的东西。
the discipline of software engineering is going to become something more like factory engineering.
—— Zach Lloyd · [01:36]

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克隆软件正变得轻而易举。
It’s becoming trivial to clone software.
—— Zach Lloyd · [05:24]

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如果你以为只要构建并发布一个出色的产品就能做成一门出色的软件生意，你多半不会成功。
if you think that you’re going to build a great software business just by building and shipping a great product, you’re probably not going to succeed.
—— Zach Lloyd · [06:09]

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它可以让你从在 hacker news 上被痛骂，变成，嗯，被容忍。
It can take you from being, like, hated on hacker news to, like, tolerated.
—— Zach Lloyd · [06:55]

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而且我预测，每家公司、每个开源项目，核心处都会有一个软件工厂，就像 CI/CD 变成「哦，你当然得有那个」一样。
And I predict that every company, every open source project, will have at its core a software factory, kind of like the way that CICD became just like, oh, of course you have that.
—— Zach Lloyd · [08:43]

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就是说，我想大家可能已经有点厌倦审阅智能体生成的垃圾代码了。
Like, I expect that people are a little bit tired of reviewing agentic slop.
—— Zach Lloyd · [11:08]

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我会让一个智能体先做代码审查，然后随着时间推移，这变成一种风险管理练习，比如，什么时候引入人类来做代码审查？
I would have an agent do code review first, and then it becomes, over time, like a risk management exercise of, like, when do you bring in humans to do code review?
—— Zach Lloyd · [11:14]

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但如果你的快乐在于发布产品，那现在是有史以来最好的时代，而这正是我找到快乐的地方。
But if your joy is in shipping product, like, it’s never been a better time, and this is actually where I find my joy.
—— Zach Lloyd · [15:33]

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所以在座的每个人都会写更少的代码，但会发布更多东西，这会是一种权衡。
So everyone in here is gonna code less, but they’re gonna ship more, and that’s gonna be a trade-off.
—— Zach Lloyd · [15:43]

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而我认为，人的品味、人的投入、人的产品感觉，人在那些无法自动化的环节进行引导，是绝对不可或缺的。
And I think that human taste, human input, human product sense, humans guiding at those touch points where you can’t automate stuff is absolutely essential.
—— Zach Lloyd · [19:49]

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② 出现在这些集

2 集

• 《Warp CEO 的软件工厂：2000 个 PR 一个月，人成了瓶颈》 — 作为主持
• 《软件工程正在变成「工厂工程」：Warp 创始人的自动化开发全景》 — 作为嘉宾

③ 他谈到的

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