① 他说过的话

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就像你可以痴迷于客户,然后他们因为你做的事对你申请限制令。
Like you could be customer obsessed and they file a restraining order against you because they don’t like what it is that you’re doing.
—— Matan Grinberg · [09:07]

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我们的工作是打造出足够好的东西,好到客户自己对我们着迷。
Like our job is to build something so good that our customers themselves become obsessed with us.
—— Matan Grinberg · [09:12]

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这让我们如此坚韧、如此强大——往前看,现在情况已经好了很多,但还会有非常糟糕的时期,而我们的 DNA 里有那种韧性,我不确定其他一些公司有没有。
That makes us so resilient and so strong that, you know, going forward, things are going a lot better now, but there are going to be really bad times, but we have that resiliency in our DNA that I’m not sure some of these other companies do.
—— Matan Grinberg · [13:35]

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我们的方向没错——我们面向构建的确实是完全自主的智能体,但早了两年,这就使得它错了。
We were right in that what we were building for was fully autonomous agents, but it was two years too early, which makes it wrong.
—— Matan Grinberg · [14:08]

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所以这里出现了一种类比:数据之于模型,正如模型之于 harness。
So there’s a sort of analog that emerges where it’s what data is to a model, models are to a harness.
—— Matan Grinberg · [20:06]

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现实是,之所以会这样,是因为我们太担心采用率,以至于矫枉过正,变成「不惜一切代价追求采用率」。
And the reality is this happened because we were so worried about adoption that we overcorrected and we’re like adoption by any means necessary.
—— Matan Grinberg · [24:57]

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所以每一位 CIO 都需要回答:每多一个 token,我们该把它放在哪里?
So every CIO is going to need to answer, for every incremental token, where do we put it?
—— Matan Grinberg · [26:09]

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一个没有智能垄断、而是一座可以随手采撷的「智能花园」的世界,是非常好的世界。
And it is a very good world where there is not like a monopoly on intelligence, but instead kind of a garden of intelligence that you can pick and choose, you know, when you’d like.
—— Matan Grinberg · [28:46]

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裁掉两万人这件事,不可能有什么科学依据。
There is no way there is science to laying off 20,000 people.
—— Matan Grinberg · [40:04]

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换句话说,如果明天所有人都病倒了,很多 Claude Code 的使用量会直接归零。
In other words, like if everyone woke up sick tomorrow, like a lot of Claude code usage would be zero.
—— Matan Grinberg · [46:27]

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「黑暗工厂」——灯都关着,事情就那么发生着——这就是软件开发的方向。
And this idea of a dark factory where the lights are off and things are just happening, that is where software development is going.
—— Matan Grinberg · [47:20]

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② 出现在这些集

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• 《Factory CEO Matan:早两年等于错，退款、路由器与软件工厂》 — 作为主持

③ 他谈到的

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Factory · Droid · 智能体 · harness · 模型独立性 · 路由器 · token · 开源模型 · 软件工厂 · 基于结果的付费

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