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工作流 (workflow)

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我在整个职业生涯中构建过很多工作流软件，如果你只是给工作流构建器加一个 AI 步骤，那它不是智能体，而且它很可能是在极其做空和看空 LLM，我认为这个房间里没有人是这样想的。
I’ve built a lot of workflow software, you know, throughout my career, and if you’re just adding, you know, an AI step to a workflow builder, it’s not an agent, and it’s also probably incredibly short and bearish on LLMs, which I don’t think anyone in this room is.
—— 嘉宾 · [15:43]

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以前，我想说是 18 个月前，就像，「噢，嗯，谁拥有最好的模型？」但随后向前看，就像真的谁拥有最好的工作流程，谁拥有最好的产品，而且我们人类只是很挑剔。我们想要最好的。
before, I would say 18 months ago, it’s like, “Oh, well, who has the best model?” But then coming forward, it’s like really who has the best workflow and who has the best product, and we humans are just demanding. We want the best.
—— Peter Deng · [33:10]

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AI在核心意味着从根本上审视问题空间和工作流，并使用AI来解决问题，而不仅仅是在GUI或用户界面的交叉点上撒一点，或者仅仅用它来加速事情。
AI at the core means fundamentally looking at the problem space and the workflows and using AI to solve the problem, not just sprinkling it at the intersections of GUIs or user interfaces that are out there or using it to just accelerate things.
—— Ezinne Udezue · [41:05]

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我们有 10 名 SDR 在做这个入站工作流，而现在我们只有一位在有效地对智能体进行质量检验。
We had 10 SDRs doing this inbound workflow, and now we just have one that is effectively QAing the agent.
—— Jeanne DeWitt Grosser · [19:56]

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虽然智能体让写数千行代码变得容易得多,但围绕代码的工作流根本不是为共同探索而构建的。
while agents have made it so much easier to write thousands of lines of code, the workflows around code are not built for exploring together at all.
—— Nico · [12:20]

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就像企业内部基于拉取请求的工作流是一个极其愚蠢的想法。
Like pull request-based workflows inside enterprises are a damn silly idea.
—— Daniel Jones · [37:04]

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我给人们的另一个建议是：不要按你当前约束下的做法去画工作流，要按你在理想世界里、没有任何约束时会怎么做去画。
The other thing that I recommend to people is I say, like, don’t workflow what you do now, given your current constraints. Workflow, what you would do in an ideal world, given no constraints.
—— Claire Veau · [11:34]

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第一，把你的工作流画出来。第二，有了 AI,你基本上可以在没有专家团队的情况下引入一个专家委员会。
One, map your workflow. Two, with AI, you can bring in basically a council of experts without having a council of experts.
—— Claire Veau · [21:29]

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我的看法是，他们大致是说，看，如果模型就这么把某件事做了，而你的应用——你在它之上构建的工作流、价值——不够有独特性，模型夺走了那个市场，那么它很可能本来就没那么有防御性。
My view is they’re kind of like, look, if the model just kind of does something and your application isn’t distinctive enough, the workflow, the value you’ve built on top of it, and the model takes that market away, well, then it probably wasn’t that, you know, defensible anyway.
—— Matt Murphy · [30:39]

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我认为需要的是这样的人：他们认识到智能体不只是把同样的事做得更快，而是我们做软件工程的一个根本性的新工作流原语。
Um I think it needs to be folks who are recognizing the fact that agents are not just doing the same thing but faster, but are fundamentally new workflow primitive in how we do software engineering.
—— Rob Willoughby · [40:47]

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他们审查的不是 10,000 行代码;他们审查的是一个他们能轻松理解并逐步走过的工作流,所以他们确切知道它会做什么。
And they’re not reviewing 10,000 lines of code; they’re reviewing a workflow they can easily understand and step through, so they know exactly what it will do.
—— Carlos González de Villaumbrosia · [35:08]

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智能体也总会更倾向于 Render 这样的更高层系统来启动一个 web 服务或启动一个工作流，因为试图在 AWS 上做这件事会花更长时间，因为你必须把一堆东西接线到一起，而每个东西都要花一段时间才能起来。
Agents will always prefer higher level systems like Render to spin up a web service or spin up a workflow because trying to do that on AWS will take much longer because you have to wire up a bunch of things together and each thing takes a while to come up.
—— Anurag Gohl · [40:40]

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如果你的 Skills 没有正确的结构，那你就不真正拥有一个确定性的工作流。
And if you don’t have the right structure of your skills, then you’re not really having a deterministic workflow.
—— Imad Touil · [06:45]

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在三年内，99% 的工作流将在开放模型上完成。
In three years, 99% of workflows are going to be done on open models.
—— Eno Reyes · [00:46]

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在三年内，99% 的工作流将在开放模型上完成。
In three years, 99% of workflows are going to be done on open models.
—— Eno Reyes · [47:31]

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你越是需要多个模型来完成一项任务或一组任务，价值就越是积聚到那个能够理解任务、获取数据并处理工作流的层上
the more that you need multiple models to do a task or a set of tasks, the more value accrues to the layer that can understand the task and get access to the data and handle the workflow
—— Aaron Levie · [26:22]

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我们走的是一条非常 Anthropic 式的路线：真正把 B2B 使用场景中的某些用户类型和工作流做到极致好，而不是在消费端把数亿美元到处乱撒。
We’re taking a very Anthropic-type approach: really trying to make certain types of users and workflows within B2B usage insanely great, and we’re not just spraying hundreds of millions of dollars at everything on the consumer side.
—— Eric Simons · [15:05]

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掌管属于你的部分：专注于你的领域指令、工作流，尤其专注于 evals,定义干净的工具，验证结果，真正做到为删除而构建。
Own what is yours, meaning focus on your domain instructions, focus on the workflows, focus especially on the evals, define clean tools, and verify the outcomes, and really build to delete.
—— Philipp Schmid · [17:16]

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同样的事情也会发生在智能上，模型将会价值巨大。但把这些模型带入银行、生命科学、医疗健康和政府等真实工作流的应用，那将会是大量的软件。
The same thing is going to be true for intelligence, which is the models will be insanely valuable. But the application of bringing those models into real workflows in banking and life sciences and healthcare and government, that’s just going to be a lot of software.
—— Aaron Levie · [06:16]

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但实际在运行的仍然是一个非常确定性的工作流，只是在最必要的地方交织着 AI。
But what is actually running is still a very deterministic workflow with AI interwoven in like the places that is most necessary.
—— Wade Foster · [19:18]

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模型是可以互换的,但工作流、工作地图以及围绕工作地图的工作流才是真正价值所在。
Models are interchangeable, but the workflow, the map of work and the workflows around the map of work is where the real value is.
—— Daniel Dines · [45:49]

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我们的工作是搞清楚如何把 Anthropic 或 OpenAI 拿出来的所有这些技术投入到为他们服务的工作中去,这样他们就不必花时间去想该用哪个模型或如何搭建工作流。
Our job is to figure out how we take all that technology coming out of Anthropic or OpenAI and put it to work for them, so they don’t have to spend time thinking about which model to use or how to set up a workflow.
—— Maggie Crowley · [00:27]

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研究人员只需用自然语言询问智能体相关评估,就能将这个工作流程的 90% 自动化。
So researchers were able to automate 90% of this workflow by simply asking the agent about the evals in question using natural language.
—— Kevin Hou · [12:26]

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你可能会陷入我所说的“中智梗图”，就是把所有时间都花在打磨工作流上，而不做实际的工作。
You can do what I call midwit memeing, where you’re spending all of your time working on your workflow and not doing actual work.
—— Charlie Holtz · [03:30]

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在某些情况下,它们在增加更多工作。它们实际上是在给你的日常工作流程里引入更多工作,而不是减少。
In some cases they’re adding more work. They’re actually introducing more work into your daily workflow, not deducting it.
—— Faisal Masud · [08:12]

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反过来讲，存在各种内部激励问题：如果你开始做更复杂的智能体，就会与现有的、提供工作流的产品产生内部冲突——因为你的产品是在解决工作本身。
The flip side is there’s all these internal incentive issues, right, which is if you start getting into more complicated agents, it’s an internal conflict with an existing product that’s offering workflow versus you’re resolving the work.
—— Seema Amble · [09:54]

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客户并不一定在乎你执行了多少次重试，而是在乎工作流是否成功且可靠地完成了。
The customer does not care necessarily how many retries you perform, but rather that the workflow was completed successfully and reliably.
—— Derek Meegan · [09:16]

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所以我在很大程度上把技能，尤其是当智能体变得更强大时，看作是在真正地编码工作流。
So I largely think of skills, especially as agents get more capable, as really encoding workflows.
—— Poteto · [63:45]

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你可以让数百万个工作流挂在那里，它还能继续运行。
You can have millions of workflows out there parked, and it can keep running.
—— Melanie Warrick · [09:14]

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我们习惯于考虑建模能力、为任务构建合适的沙箱、把任务放进去，而现在我们开始看到，这个个体循环更安全，因为它拥有的访问权限比整个工作流实际拥有的要少。
We get used to thinking about modeling capabilities, building the right sandbox for the task, putting the task in, and now we’re starting to see that this individual loop is safer because it has less access than the entire workflow effectively has.
—— Jim Clark · [15:54]

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但你会震惊于有多少人连基本的工作流都没试过，就对什么东西好用形成了自己的看法。
But you’d be shocked at I feel like how many people just haven’t tried the basic workflows and like had an opinion about what’s working for them.
—— Holly Li · [23:47]

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但真正的价值在于能无人监督地连续运行数小时的任务或者说工作流。
But really the value is about tasks or like workflows that go on like unsupervised for hours.
—— Jason Ma · [48:42]

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