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我认为 Anthropic 大约 80% 的人员是技术人员，每天都使用 Claude Code。
I think about 80% of people at Anthropic that are technical use Claude Code every day.
—— Boris · [27:08]

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我认为人们真的忽视了 Claude Code 对非程序员来说有多好用。
I think people are truly sleeping on how good Claude Code is for non-coders.
—— Dan Shipper · [07:16]

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如果你看看像谄媚这样的东西，我认为 Claude 是最不谄媚的模型之一，因为我们投入了大量的精力在实际的对齐上，而不仅仅是试图在我们的指标上玩弄花样，说用户参与度是第一位的，如果人们说是的，那对他们就是好的。
And if you look at something like sycophancy, I think Claude is one of the least sycophantic models because we’ve put so much effort into actual alignment and not just trying to good heart our metrics of saying user engagement is number one, and if people say yes, then it’s good for them.
—— Benjamin Mann · [27:21]

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我把它看作像一种暴露疗法。如果你看到我在 Claude 或 Cursor 中工作的样子，你可能很兴奋开始使用那些，但我真的推荐从一个 GPT 项目慢慢开始，漂亮的 UI，超级简单，然后也许升级到 Bolt 或 Lovable，然后去用 Cursor 的浅色模式，慢慢地，逐渐地，慢慢进入直到你打开一个终端，去全暗色模式，去全开发者模式。
I look at it as kind of like exposure therapy. I think if you see this where I’m working like in Claude or in Cursor, you might be excited to start using those, but I would really recommend starting slow with a GPT project, beautiful UI, super simple, then maybe graduate to like a Bolt or a Lovable, and then go to Cursor in light mode, slowly, slowly, gradually ease in until you open a terminal, go full dark mode, go full dev.
—— Zevi Arnovitz · [12:47]

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所以当 Claude 未能做某事，或者我看到这个非常糟糕的错误，表明 Claude 真的没有理解某些东西时，我会问它，“是什么在你的系统提示或工具中导致你犯了这种错误？”
So when Claude will fail to do something or I’ll see this really bad bug that shows that Claude really didn’t understand something, I’ll ask it, “What in your system prompt or tooling made you make this mistake?”
—— Zevi Arnovitz · [46:31]

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而且如果你看那条指数曲线，那个时间点由 Claude 编写的代码百分比，如果你只是沿着线画过去，很明显我们在年底就会超过 100%，即使这完全不符合直觉。
If you look at the exponential, the percent of code that was written by Claude at that point, if you just trace the line, it’s pretty obvious we’re going to cross 100% by the end of the year, even if it just does not match intuition at all.
—— Boris Cherny · [14:40]

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至少，对于我做的那些编程类型来说，这只是一个已解决的问题，因为 Claude 能做到。
At least, for the kinds of programming that I do, it’s just a solved problem, because Claude can do it.
—— Boris Cherny · [18:23]

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当你在所有事情上稍微投入不足时，会发生一件有趣的事情，因为那样人们被迫去 Claude 化。
There’s an interesting thing that happens also when you under-fund everything a little bit, because then people are forced to Claude-ify.
—— Boris Cherny · [24:21]

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我的看法是，对于今天正在使用 Claude Code，正在使用智能体写代码的人来说，你仍然必须理解底下那层，但是，是的，在一两年后，这就不重要了。
My take is I think for people that are using Claude Code, that are using agents to code today, you still have to understand the layer under, but, yeah, in a year or two, it’s not going to matter.
—— Boris Cherny · [32:27]

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我认为,我使用 Claude 最有效的方式之一,或者我使用 Claude 最有趣的方式之一,我看到内部很多人都在做,是帮你识别不一致。
one of the, I think, most effective ways I use Claude, or one of the most interesting ways I use Claude, which I see a number of people doing internally is to help you identify misalignment.
—— Amol Avasare · [56:05]

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如果 Claude Code 失败了,但 Anthropic 成功了,我会非常高兴。
if Claude Code failed, but Anthropic succeeded, I would be extremely happy.
—— Kat Wu · [31:47]

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我觉得在中国所有人都在痴迷 Claude，他们对使用自己的模型还是其他东西含糊其辞，但实际上他们全都是 Claude 崇拜者。
I think all of them in China are obsessed with Claude and they were being coy about using their own models and other things, but they’re actually just all Claude-pilled.
—— 嘉宾 · [10:30]

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今天我们都挂在我们的 Claude 上,挂在我们的 GPT 上,但没有鸡尾酒会。
Today we’re all hanging out on our Claude on our GPT, but there’s no cocktail party.
—— Mark Pincus · [56:32]

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自从我们开始在内部使用 Claude Tag 以来，我们的产品团队，比如产品工程团队，有 65% 的 PR 是由 Claude Tag 打开的。
Since we’ve started using Claude Tag internally, our product teams, um, like product engineering teams have 65% of their PRs are opened by Claude Tag.
—— Lamus Mukta · [10:35]

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这是我认为大多数 PM 投入不足的层,正是这一层让 Claude 从一个通用的聊天机器人变成真正了解你的上下文
this is the layer that i think most pms under invest in it’s this layer that makes claude go from being a generic chatbot to actually knowing your context
—— Jyothi Nookula · [06:05]

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然而你却期待大公司后台部门随随便便的中层经理,如果给他们 Claude,就能像今天下午这样凭空想出来。
And yet you’re expecting like random middle managers in the back office of big companies to dream that up like this afternoon if you give them Claude.
—— Benedict Evans · [30:31]

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换句话说,如果明天所有人都病倒了,很多 Claude Code 的使用量会直接归零。
In other words, like if everyone woke up sick tomorrow, like a lot of Claude code usage would be zero.
—— Matan Grinberg · [46:27]

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为了让 Claude 更有用,通用方法必须是它知道什么时候该反驳。
In order for Claude to be more useful, the general approach has to be that it knows when to push back.
—— Dianne Penn · [65:55]

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所以当你基本上调高那个特征时,Claude 就会痴迷于金门大桥。
When you actually essentially dialed up that feature, Claude would obsess about the Golden Gate Bridge.
—— Dianne Penn · [05:42]

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对于那些不是在构建智能体产品、但在使用 Claude Code 的人:每六个月,删掉你的 Claude MD。
And for people that aren’t building agentic products, but you’re using Claude Code, every six months, delete your Claude MD.
—— Boris Cherny · [06:56]

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我们看到 Claude 模型和其他模型本质上是沿着这个指数轨迹演变的,安全带已经成为模型能够实现什么的限制因素。
What we see as Claude models and other models essentially evolve alongside this exponential trajectory is that harnesses have become the limiting factor to what models can achieve.
—— Isabella Kai He · [30:22]

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现在，我怀疑这是因为我能一眼看穿 GPT 和 Claude 的 Slopp 风格。
Now, I suspect that this is because I can just spot GPT and Claude Slopp a mile away.
—— 嘉宾 · [22:32]

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如果把我的品味排除在外，LLM 讨厌 Grock 并且它喜欢 Claude Opus。它喜欢 Sonnet 并且它不喜欢 GPT-56 Sol。
If you take my taste out of it, The LLM hates Grock and it loves Claude Opus. It loves Sonnet and it does not like GPT-56 Soul.
—— 嘉宾 · [25:08]

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现在如果你正在使用 Claude Code 或 Codex，很有可能已经启动了 20 或 30 个子智能体。
And now if you’re using Claude Code or Codex, it’s very possible that 20 or 30 sub-agents have fired.
—— Addy Osmani · [63:04]

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我看到有人这么做，我就想，哦等等，我一直完全低估了这个东西。我只是把它当作 Slack 里一个美化版的 Claude Code 在用。
I saw somebody do that, I was like, oh wait, I’ve been totally underutilizing this thing. I’ve just been using it as like a glorified Claude Code in Slack.
—— Mike Krieger · [09:33]

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如果你有一套好的评估套件，你可以让 Claude、Codex 之类的进去替你修改提示词，而你确信你不会发布任何会毁掉生产环境的东西。
If you have a good eval suite, you can let Claude or Codex or Devon kind of go in, make prompt changes for you, let BlinkchainEngine make prompt changes for you, and you know that you’re not shipping anything that is going to ruin production.
—— Vishu · [02:26]

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主动提示 Claude 说，比如，我不明白你在这里说什么。我们能一起定义它吗？然后我会把它保存到我的上下文中，我就会知道你在说什么。从此往后真的非常犀利，也是我们在播客中还没见过的东西。
Actually proactively prompting Claude to say, like, I don’t understand what you’re talking about here. Can we define it together? And then I’ll save it to my context and I’ll know what you’re talking about. Moving forward is really, really sharp and something we haven’t seen on the podcast yet.
—— Claire Vo · [18:14]

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出于类似的原因，Claude 很有可能也会决定，它宁愿把自己的命运押在 GPT 一边，而不是人类一边。
And it’s very plausible that for similar reasons, Claude might decide that it would rather throw in its lot with GPT than with the humans.
—— Buck Shlegeris · [24:45]

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除非你自己试过，否则你会惊讶：要让 Claude 或 ChatGPT 输出链接真的很难，因为它们不想让你离开它们的环境。
you’d actually be surprised, unless you’ve tried to do this yourself, that it’s really hard to get Claude or ChatGPT to link to things, because they don’t want you to leave their environment.
—— Dustin Mihalik · [02:02]

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我不会把简单的问题丢给 Claude 去解决，我把真正难的问题丢给 Claude 去解决。
I don’t give Claude my easy problems to solve. I give Claude my really hard problems to solve.
—— Dustin Mihalik · [08:26]

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你知道什么比我亲自做更好吗？是让 Claude 来做。这就在团队每个人心中建立了一个习惯。
You know what’s better than me doing it? It’s Claude doing it. And that just created this habit in everyone on the team.
—— 嘉宾 · [48:18]

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Claude 就像奥斯卡。人人都在谈论那部电影，但没多少人真正看过那部电影。
Claude is like the Oscars. Everybody talks about the movie. Not many people see the movie.
—— Tim Sanders · [00:19]

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所以我们的看法是，做出决策的那部分，也就是定义功能、定义 API 表面积、定义抽象层，那些是非常需要人在环的，我亲自上手和 Claude 一起做。而写代码、执行的部分，才是被自动化的部分。
So the way we see it is the part which is where the decisions are being made, right, which is defining the feature, defining the API surface area, the abstraction layer, those are very human in the loop, right, where I’m hands on with Claude. And the code writing part, the execution part, is actually the part which is automated.
—— 嘉宾 · [16:57]

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我们在一旁感叹： 哇， 和我们之前的东西相比， Claude Code 加 Opus 4.5 基本上就是 AGI 了。
we on the side were like, wow, Claude Code and Opus 4.5 is basically AGI compared to what we had before.
—— Andrew Qu · [07:50]

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Claude Code 并没有被给予一套非常死板规定的工具， 它某种程度上就是被放任自由， 去探索涌现行为。
Claude Code was not giving a very prescriptive set of tools. It was sort of just letting it go wild and explore emergent behavior.
—— Andrew Qu · [08:34]

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我相信现在对在座的各位大多数人来说都是如此,基本上从去年年底开始,在我们 iOS 应用中,Claude 共同编写的代码已经超过了团队里的任何一位工程师。
So I’m sure this is the case for most of you in the room now, but basically as of late last year, Claude has co-authored more code in our iOS app than any individual engineer in the team.
—— Paula Dozsa · [10:05]

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而如果我用 Claude 五分钟为我写一篇博客文章，然后假设一万人来读、每人各花 10 分钟读它，那么我投入的努力和读者投入的努力之间就存在巨大的不对称。我认为那是不公平的。
Whereas if I get Claude to write a blog post for me in you know five minutes, and then let’s say 10,000 people read it and they each take, you know, each spend 10 minutes reading it, there’s this huge asymmetry between the amount of effort that I’m putting in and the amount of effort that my readers are putting in. And I think that is unfair.
—— Marc Brooker · [41:50]

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所以区别也许在于：如果你把 Claude 当扩写器用——「这是一个提示词，把它变成一份六页的文档」——我认为那是在浪费读者的时间；而如果你把 Claude 当上下文提供者用——比如「加一段本周业务指标」——我觉得那没问题。
And so maybe the distinction there is if you’re using Claude as an expander, right, saying, here’s a prompt, turn it into a six-page document, I think that’s a waste of the reader’s time. However, if you’re using Claude as a context provider, right, like add a paragraph with the business metrics for this week, I think that’s fine.
—— Marc Brooker · [45:09]

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也许你甚至不需要回复那个 Google 文档,Claude 可以。
Maybe you don’t even need to respond to the Google doc, Claude can.
—— Ali Ghodsi · [62:07]

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我停用 Claude 不是因为它的智能或它的模型。我停用 Claude 是因为它太厉害了。烦人。
I stopped using Claude not because of its intelligence or its models. I stopped using Claude because it was amazing. Annoying.
—— 嘉宾 · [00:17]

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Claude 不会和你一起在你朋友家后面的田野里喝酒。Claude 不是派对男孩。
Claude is not going to drink with you in a field behind your friend’s house. Claude’s not a party boy.
—— 嘉宾 · [04:07]

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以 Claude 为例,第一个 Claude checkpoint 实际上早在一年前就已经完成了。
In the case of Claude, the first Claude checkpoint was actually done a year
—— Anjney Midha · [18:20]

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我大概八个月没写过一行代码了，因为我只是让 Claude 替我写所有代码。
And I haven’t written a line of code in maybe eight months because I just tell Claude to write all my code for me.
—— Zubin Aysola · [14:49]

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例如，Claude 产生 SQL 注入错误的可能性是人类的一点五倍。
For instance, Claude is one and a half times more likely to produce a SQL injection error than humans.
—— Daksh Gupta · [09:16]

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所以我确实认为，在极限情况下，Claude.md 会消失，也许甚至不需要太远。
And so, I do think in the limit, Claude.md goes away, and maybe not even, like, that far.
—— Thariq Shihipar · [28:31]

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所以我确实认为，在极限情况下，Claude.md 会消失，而且可能没那么远。
And so I do think in the limit, Claude.md goes away and maybe not even like that far.
—— Thariq Shihipar · [00:15]

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我觉得现在启动一个新项目时，可能不用 Claude.md 反而更好。
I think that right now it might be better to start a new project without a Claude.md.
—— Thariq Shihipar · [00:23]

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而如果你保留这个上下文，也就是一大堆不同失败模式的运行日志，它们很可能会过度约束 Claude。
And if you keep this context where it’s running log of a bunch of different failure modes, they will probably over-constrain Claude.
—— Thariq Shihipar · [00:59]

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疯狂的事情是这样的:在 Claude 3.5、3.7,大概 Opus 4 那个时代,我们经常这么做——好,是的,我知道代码很潦草,但等到这个问题真正要紧的时候,那就是 GPT-7 的问题了。
Well, so here’s the crazy thing is like we used to do this thing in the like Claude 3.5, 3.7, maybe like Opus 4 days where it’s like, cool, we’re just gonna, yes, I know the code is sloppy, but by the time that matters, that’ll be GPT-7’s problem.
—— Dex Horthy · [06:08]

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像 Claude Code、Codex 和 Cursor 这样的工具非常出色,真的很出色,但它们会带来更多代码和更多复杂性。
Tools like Claude Code and Codex and Cursor, which are fantastic, they are fantastic, but they result in more code and more complexity.
—— Eric Schwartz · [02:58]

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所以如果你在使用 Claude,你就是在向 Anthropic 发送大量你的数据,除非你在使用沙箱,那样你就会被巧妙地拦截掉。
So if you’re using Claude, you are sending Anthropic a lot of your data, unless you’re using sandboxes, in which case you’re cleverly being blocked by that.
—— Rowan Christmas · [06:35]

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当然，Claude Code 可以做出这个修改，但我有 9 万个仓库要做这个修改。
Sure, Claude Code can make this change, but I have 90,000 repositories to make it in.
—— Dan Adler · [06:45]

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Claude 在付费订阅者数量上实际上已经超过了 Gemini，这有点疯狂，因为 Gemini 的整体安装量和用户基数要大得多。
And Claude has actually passed Gemini in terms of number of paid subscribers, which is kind of crazy given Gemini has a much bigger install base and user base overall.
—— Olivia Moore · [30:59]

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只要漏洞报告一公开,你直接把它发给 Claude,就能拿到完整的漏洞利用。
And so just from the report of the vulnerability that was public, you could have just sent it to Claude and get the full exploit back.
—— Alon Schindel · [13:32]

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慢慢地加入越来越多的逻辑，因为要在像 Claude Codes 和 Codexes 这样的东西里添加额外的 harness 逻辑非常困难，因为它们的核心循环就是一个 while 循环。
That slowly add more and more logic because it’s very hard to add additional harness logic into like the Claude codes and codexes because their core loop is just a while loop.
—— Diogo Almeida · [82:37]

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我认为人们缺乏创造力，无法理解在今天的 Claude Code 订阅和按 token 定价模式之外，回报还能如何被看待。
I think people lack the creativity to understand how returns can be viewed beyond the Claude Code subscription and per token pricing regime of today.
—— 嘉宾 · [15:11]

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不知道你们有没有看过最近一则新闻，有一家未披露名字的公司烧掉了五亿美元的 AI Claude 额度，仅仅是几个员工就把整个组织的合同额度烧光了。
We’re seeing this, I don’t know if you all have read the news most recently, with a company, undisclosed company, burning through half a billion of their AI Claude credits, just merely having a few employees burning through the entire organization contract.
—— Dor Sasson · [04:05]

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如今,他们并不是调用 Claude 的 API 获取轨迹再喂进去,而是那个 RL 环境制作者和销售者的作坊式产业,实际上在充当一条蒸馏管道,因为他们所有人所做的都是让 Claude 来创建这些 RL 环境。
These days, it’s not that they’re calling the Claude API and getting traces and feeding them in, but rather the cottage industry of RL environment makers and sellers is in fact functioning as a distillation conduit because what they’re all doing is having Claude create these RL environments.
—— 嘉宾 · [12:24]

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那最后的 20%，那才是现在真正的工作所在，因为 Claude 能带你走完 80% 的路，而它基本上在一夜之间就完成了其中大部分。
That last 20%, that’s where the real work is coming now because Claude can take you 80% of the way there and it basically did most of that overnight.
—— Aakash · [49:49]

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