① 他说过的话

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当围绕资源分配、围绕优先级排序、围绕我们把时间花在更多产品工作还是更多技术工作上没有任何辩论时，这会在我的脑子里亮起一盏灯，说明有什么地方不对劲。
When there’s no debate around resourcing, around prioritization, whether we spend time on more product work or more tech work, that lights a bulb in my head that something is wrong.
—— Ben Celebicic · [05:36]

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我们并不真的试图让你继续停留在平台上。我们竭尽所能把人们推离平台，让他们把时间花在现实生活中。
We don’t really try to keep you engaged with the platform. We do everything we can to push people off the platform and get them to spend time in real life.
—— Ben Celebicic · [07:44]

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当你为这样的目标优化时，创新就在那里诞生了，因为它迫使你深入思考。我们试图摆脱用户，这是违反直觉的。
When you optimize for something like that, that’s where innovation is born, because it makes you think hard. It’s counterintuitive that we’re trying to get rid of people.
—— Ben Celebicic · [07:54]

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把它想象成一场很棒的派对。每个人都很兴奋能在那里，每个人都想和其他人交谈，房间里有越多的人，派对就越好。
Think about it like a great party. You’re at this great party, everyone is excited to be there, everyone wants to speak with other people, and the more people you have in the room, the better the party is.
—— Ben Celebicic · [09:37]

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所以我们构建的任何东西，如果不能提高两个人离开 Hinge 并在现实生活中见面的几率，我们就不会发布它。一切都经过这个镜头。
So if anything we build does not increase the chance of two people leaving Hinge and meeting in real life, we don’t ship it. Everything goes through that lens.
—— Ben Celebicic · [11:38]

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AI 最近的进展在某些领域是改变游戏规则的，但在这里起到改变游戏规则作用的是广义的 AI，以及我们一直在使用的简单、传统的机器学习模型。
The recent developments in AI have been game-changing in some spaces, but what’s been game-changing here is AI generally, and simple, traditional machine-learning models that we’ve used forever.
—— Ben Celebicic · [14:14]

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如果你执着于不断思考你的用户并解决他们的问题，你的业务就会拥有一个越转越好的飞轮。
If you’re obsessive about constantly thinking about your users and solving their problems, your business is going to have this flywheel of getting better and better.
—— Ben Celebicic · [16:09]

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我可以在没有任何工程支持的情况下，把一个想法做成尽可能接近最终产品的原型。它真的能调用那些 API，能连接到我们的后端，我可以把它交到用户手中，真正获得信念：这个东西值得构建。
I can, without any engineering support, prototype an idea that’s as close as possible to the final product. It really works with the APIs, it connects to our backend, and I can put it in the hands of users and really gain conviction that this is valuable to build.
—— Ben Celebicic · [19:44]

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有些人在实际工作中已经开始使用这些工具，并开始说：「看，我在 iOS 上构建这个功能。为什么我不直接让工具帮我在 Android 上也构建它呢？」突然之间，我一次完成了两个人的工作。
Some people on the ground are picking up these tools and already starting to say, “Look, I’m building this feature on iOS. Why don’t I just tell the tool to build it for me on Android?” And all of a sudden, I’ve done the work of two people at once.
—— Ben Celebicic · [21:09]

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我真的想看到证据，证明产品经理或设计师确实能够构建出在长期内可扩展、可维护的技术。为了保持这一点，我把线划在构建这一环节。
I really want to see the proof that product managers or designers can actually build technology that’s going to be scalable and maintainable in the long run. In order for me to maintain that, I draw the line at the build.
—— Ben Celebicic · [22:49]

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即使你现在创造了一些技术债务，如果你现在降低质量来换取更快的速度，这些工具会变得更好，并能够为你修复所有这些问题。我在这一点上倾向于不信任那种说法。
Even if you create some tech debt now, if you lower your quality right now in exchange for moving faster, these tools are going to get better and be able to fix all of those things for you. I tend not to trust that at this point.
—— Ben Celebicic · [25:25]

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