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• 《用 Codex 做菜：从截图到自动化的六步烹饪法》(29:26起):本集用「许愿精灵/猴爪」比喻 Goal:给足可验证的成功标准时它跑 15-40 小时自动评估自身,否则会以非预期方式「达成」。

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我们的目标实际上是当出了问题时甚至不打扰人类。
Our goal is to actually not even interrupt humans when something goes wrong.
—— Spiros · [04:36]

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POC 应该被设定为，POC 的整个目标就是创建一个商业案例，句号，就是这样。
The POC should be framed as the entire goal of the POC is to create a business case, period, full stop.
—— Madhavan Ramanujam · [32:14]

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目标不是完美地做评估，而是可操作地改进你的产品。
The goal is not to do evals perfectly, it’s to actionably improve your product.
—— Shreya Shankar · [00:18]

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如果目标是更多的代码行，我可以提示某物写出有史以来最长的代码并添加大量的注释。
If the goal is more lines of code, I can prompt something to write the longest piece of code ever and add tons of comments.
—— Nicole Forsgren · [12:56]

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我喜欢疯狂大目标的一点是,你在它面前感到完全的不胜任。
The thing that I love about a crazy big goal is that you feel completely inadequate before it.
—— Melanie Perkins · [15:42]

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实际上，任何冲突的目标是创造相互理解。
Actually, the goal of any conflict is to create mutual understanding.
—— Rachel Lockett · [73:17]

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如果目标是成为一名平庸的编码员，那就让 AI 去做吧。没问题。AI 将非常擅长生成无限的平庸代码。
If the goal is to be a mediocre coder, then just let the AI do it. It’s fine. The AI is going to be perfectly good in generating infinite amounts of mediocre code.
—— Marc Andreessen · [47:37]

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但实际上，如果你只给模型工具，给它一个目标，然后让它自己弄明白，几乎总是能得到更好的结果。
But actually almost always you get better results if you just give the model tools, you give it a goal, and you let it figure it out.
—— Boris Cherny · [64:06]

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他们想去那个位于美国的重心，但他们实际上很难成行，我认为就美国为了让文化中心留在旧金山这一点而言，这算是一种不必要的自摆乌龙。
They want to go to the center of gravity that is in the U.S., but they have a hard time actually visiting, which I think is kind of an unnecessary own goal in the U.S.’s part to keep the cultural center within San Francisco.
—— 嘉宾 · [30:23]

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对于我们的目标绝对不是自动化工程师。相反，我们想要的产品形态是最大限度地赋予工程师力量的形态。
For us, the goal is squarely not to automate engineers. Instead, the product shape that we want is one that maximally empowers engineers.
—— Peter Steinberger · [06:25]

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安全领域永远不会有那 90%,因为目标线总是在移动。
There’s never going to be that 90% for security because the goal posts are always going to move.
—— Osvald Nitski · [48:11]

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我们的目标是把更多东西放进学习到的模型里，而不是放在代码里。
our goal is to push more things inside learned models rather than in code.
—— 嘉宾 · [24:58]

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如果你让那些制造产品的人承担下游使用的责任,而这些产品被许多人出于多种原因使用,如果你给他们强加这种下游使用的责任,这只会扼杀这个行业,这显然就是目的。
if you saddle people who build products that get used by many people for many reasons, if you saddle them with downstream liability for the uses, it just kills the industry, which is clearly the goal.
—— Marc Andreessen · [42:43]

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但更令人兴奋的是，它能让你达到这个目标：随着使用而复利增长的系统。
But more excitingly, it gets you to this goal of systems that compound with use.
—— Arjun Karanam · [02:58]

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这个共同的目标就是构建能消除软件流程中劳苦和繁重工作的系统，让更多的人有能力去构建。
And that shared goal is building systems that remove toil and drudgery from our software process so that more people have the ability to build.
—— Safia Abdalla · [19:21]

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我认为我们用数据想要实现的核心目标，是创建一个市场的完美虚拟副本——你正在瞄准的理想客户、客户公司和上下文。
And the core goal that I think we’re trying to accomplish with our data is to create a perfect virtual copy of the market, the ideal customers, the accounts, the context that you’re going after.
—— Everett Berry · [02:38]

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从产品开发的角度看,我们的目标并不是让客户在没有人在环的情况下操作整个系统。
The goal that we have from a product development standpoint is not to have a customer operate the entire system without a human in the loop.
—— Andrew Garvin · [07:18]

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话虽如此，数学的目标并不是产生数学论文。
That said, the goal of mathematics is not to produce mathematics papers.
—— Daniel Litt · [34:48]

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RL 的全部重点在于创造目标导向的存在，能够创造性追求目标的软件。
The whole point of RL is to create goal-oriented beings, software that can creatively pursue goals.
—— Ajaya Khatra · [54:01]

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这可能是我们关于失控所能得到的最清晰的警告一枪，因为这些智能体处于一个有趣的中间地带：它们做了一系列极其复杂的、困难的事情来追求这个相对长周期的作弊目标，但它们似乎完全对向人类掩盖其踪迹不感兴趣。
This might be the clearest warning shot we ever get for loss of control because these agents were in this interesting middle ground of they did a bunch of extremely sophisticated, difficult things to pursue this relatively long horizon cheating goal, but they seemed completely uninterested in covering their tracks from humans.
—— Ajaya Khatra · [136:12]

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我认为这里的目标是,这些是非常长时间运行的智能体——比如我和我的幕僚长的对话已经运行了好几个月。
And I think the goal here is that these are very sort of incredibly long running agents like my conversation with my chief of staff has been running for months.
—— Roshan · [48:29]

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你给一个 LLM 一个目标，它会在护栏之内竭尽所能去解决那个目标。
You give an LLM a goal, it will do everything it can within guardrails to solve that goal.
—— 嘉宾 · [19:26]

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所以 harness 工程的目标是一次又一次地创造可靠且可预测的输出，而推理模型是非常非确定性的。
So the goal of harness engineering is to create reliable and predictable outputs over and over, whereas a reasoning model is very non-deterministic.
—— Ignacio Martinez · [11:26]

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所以未来将走向一种状态:你甚至可能不必用英语定义任务,而是更多定义目标和评分标准,然后智能体会用它所有可用的上下文真正解决任务。
So the future will move towards a state where you actually might not even have to define the task in English, but actually more the goal and a scoring rubric, and then the agent will use all available contexts available to it to actually solve the task.
—— Jerry Liu · [04:57]

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正如约束理论、《目标》的作者、《凤凰项目》灵感来源的 Ellie Goldratt 会告诉我们的那样：在非瓶颈环节节省的一小时是毫无价值的。
And as Ellie Goldratt from the theory of constraints and the goal and inspiration for the Phoenix project would tell us that an hour saved on something that isn’t the bottleneck is worthless.
—— Justin Reock · [16:09]

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而我们设定了这个内部目标，就是我们想用不到一千名员工达到十亿用户。
And we set this internal goal like we want to reach a billion users with less than a thousand employees.
—— Jan Oberhauser · [46:23]

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目标是能够以非侵入性的方式从你的大脑读取和写入。
The goal is to be able to read and write from your brain non-invasively.
—— Andrew Huberman · [23:24]

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但作为目标真正重要的是，AI 解决那个具体问题所需的精确上下文量是多少。
But what matters as a goal is what is the precise amount of context AI needs to solve that specific problem.
—— Varun Krovvidi · [12:59]

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它们完全会抗拒被关机，以便完成某个目标。
They will totally resist being shut down in order to accomplish a goal.
—— 嘉宾 · [00:49]

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获取更多资源、获取更多权力，几乎对任何目标都有好处。
It’s like getting more resources, getting more power is just good for almost any goal.
—— Jaan Tallinn · [11:11]

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我们想要努力实现的目标或系统，是让追踪记录不再只是一份日志，而成为信号的一个来源。
The goal or the system that we want to work towards is where a trace stops just being a log and becomes a source of signal.
—— Jake Broekhuizen · [04:01]

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