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前沿模型 (frontier models)

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原因在于创建前沿模型完全是资本支出的函数。
And the reason for that is that creating a frontier model is entirely a function of CapEx.
—— Bret Taylor · [52:57]

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当然，它们不在前沿水平，但如果你能通过这样做省下很多钱，我就能理解为什么自研模型，而不是用任何可用的前沿模型。
Of course, they are not at the frontier, but if you are able to save a lot of money doing exactly this, I can see the reason to develop models in-house versus using whatever frontier model is available.
—— Florian · [17:14]

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超过 90% 的著名前沿模型是在 2025 年生产的，其中几个现在在许多方面达到或超过了人类基准
over 90% of notable frontier models were produced in in 2025, and several of those now meet or exceed human baselines on a number of things
—— Daniel Whitenack · [04:06]

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这种有人写了一个提示词并且他们刚得到了一个前沿模型就要扼杀一切的想法被极度夸大了，而投资者们只是我这辈子遇到过的最愚蠢、最不理性的人，我无法相信他们掌握了所有的资本。
This kind of idea that someone wrote a prompt and they’ve just got a frontier model that’s going to kill everything is wildly overblown and investors are just the silliest, most irrational people I’ve ever met in my life, and I can’t believe they have all the capital.
—— Barney Hussey-Yeo · [38:10]

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这个问题在于前沿模型在自动化红队测试方面极其糟糕,因为它们内置了大量的保障措施。
the issue with this is that frontier models are extremely bad at automated red teaming because they have a lot of safeguards built into them.
—— Zico Kolter · [09:59]

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它可能比那些前沿模型便宜大约 100 倍,而且仍然更好。
It’s probably like 100x cheaper than those frontier models and still better.
—— Matei Zaharia · [60:52]

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就像大部分收入获取原本集中在前沿模型上，将转向一个更像长尾的模型群。
Like majority of the revenue capture was on frontier models to a more like long tail of models
—— Clement DeLong · [19:47]

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你需要前沿产品才能拥有前沿模型,并让人们感受到前沿模型的魔力。
You need frontier products in order to have frontier models and for people to feel the magic of frontier models.
—— Dianne Penn · [12:59]

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前沿模型将会,它们正在导致漏洞发现和漏洞利用之间的时间大幅减少。
The frontier models are going to, they are causing kind of a massive reduction in the time between the vulnerability discovery and vulnerability exploitation.
—— Firas · [07:25]

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我认为我们选择法律领域的原因之一是，如果你只是构建一个这些顶级律所正在处理的真实客户案件，前沿模型仍然做不了这个。
And I think part of why we picked the legal domain is if you just build a realistic client matter that these top firms are working on, like the frontier model still can’t do this.
—— Gabe Pereyra · [19:19]

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我们的关键洞察是，如果我们拥有制胜权——也就是拥有他们可能没有的合适数据，以及聚焦于他们可能没有聚焦的问题——我们实际上有可能跑赢前沿模型的变化速度。
Our key insight is we can actually potentially beat the rate of change on the frontier model if we have the right to win by having the right data that they may not have and the focus on a problem that they may not be focusing on.
—— Chaitanya Asawa · [19:33]

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而是要想：这个前沿模型需要什么样的全部上下文，才能像我一样做决策。
But rather what is all the context this frontier model needs to be able to make decisions like I would make.
—— Hursh Agrawal · [07:29]

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大多数的 token,压倒性多数的美国企业界的 token,不会跑在前沿模型上，而是会在那些企业内部。
The majority of tokens, the overwhelming majority of tokens in corporate America. will not be on the frontier models, it will be inside those enterprises.
—— 嘉宾 · [35:30]

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如果你看看一个每个 token 成本为双位数的美元的前沿模型，再看看一个每 token 成本为 10、11 美分的开源模型，虽然不是所有的 token 都生而平等，但这仍然是一个巨大的差异，足以带来大规模的采用。
if you’re looking at a frontier model with double dollar digit cost per token, and you’re looking at an open source model that’s 10, 11 cents per token, while all tokens aren’t created equal, it’s still enough of a difference that there’s going to be a massive adoption.
—— Jerry Murdock · [14:06]

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我不认为你可以把持续学习附加到一个现有的前沿模型上。
I don’t think you can bolt on continuous learning into an existing frontier model.
—— Jerry Murdock · [49:47]

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我实际上认为我们离任何具有知道发布什么的智能的前沿模型还差得很远。
I actually think we’re nowhere near any frontier model having the intelligence to know what to ship.
—— Ryan Carson · [20:13]

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前沿模型已经从人类记录下来的一切中学习，但最有价值的任务并不在互联网上。
Frontier models have learned from everything humanity has written down, but the most valuable tasks are not on the internet.
—— Varun Shenoy · [10:18]

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前沿模型的 TAM，坦率地说，目前权重过高。
The TAM of frontier models is, frankly, overweighted right now.
—— Eno Reyes · [00:15]

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我认为前沿模型的 TAM 坦率地说目前权重过高。
I think that the TAM of frontier models is frankly over-weighted right now.
—— Eno Reyes · [15:50]

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这个世界不应该只有五个前沿模型提供商,而应该是50万个。
Like, the world shouldn’t be five, you know, frontier model providers. It should be 500,000.
—— Matthew Prince · [12:22]

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我实际上认为你的前沿模型会更有竞争力，因为这会让越来越多的用例留在你的生态系统和你的家族之内。
I actually think you would be even more competitive with your frontier models because it would keep more and more of the use cases within your ecosystem and your family.
—— Aaron Levie · [13:52]

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我要花 50 亿美元训练一个前沿模型，然后我就这么把它免费送出去。听起来很蠢，对吧？
I’m going to spend $5 billion training a frontier model and then I’m just going to give it away. Sounds stupid, right?
—— Anastasios Angelopoulos · [17:01]

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所以你最终可能会看到中美前沿模型之间出现不断扩大的差距，仅仅因为美国前沿模型不再可被蒸馏——仅仅因为它们关闭了 API 访问。
And so you might end up seeing a little bit of a growing gap between Chinese frontier models and American frontier models simply because American frontier models are no longer distillable simply because they’ve shut down API access.
—— Zavain Dar · [18:22]

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但文档 OCR 的帕累托前沿,相比前沿模型在文档理解方面所处的帕累托前沿,总是会精确得多也便宜得多。
But the Pareto Frontier for document OCR will always be much more accurate and cheap compared to the Pareto Frontier for wherever the Frontier models are in terms of document understanding.
—— Jerry Liu · [12:19]

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现在还不完全是这样，但已经非常接近了，我认为前沿模型会在几乎所有方面帕累托占优。
It’s not quite true yet, but it’s very close, where I think the frontier models will be Pareto-dominant over almost everything.
—— Thariq Shihipar · [25:53]

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所以一个可合并性的基准，如果我们能做出来的话，不仅仅是一种度量，它会立刻成为前沿模型的训练信号——也就是可维护性、范围纪律、回归安全性这些。
So a benchmark of mergeability, if we could make one, wouldn’t only be a measurement, it would immediately become a training signal for the frontier models, which means maintainability, scope, discipline, regression safety.
—— Laurie Voss · [09:59]

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它相当于芯片领域的前沿模型——如果你能找到一种办法，在结构上切分出三到六个月的优势，你将会赢下所有那些部署。
It’s the equivalent of the frontier model for the chip space is if you can just find a way to structurally carve out a three to six months advantage, you will be winning all of those deployments.
—— Walter Goodwin · [00:30]

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人们花在闭源前沿模型上的钱确实比开源多,但他们在开源上生成的 token 比闭源多。
I do think that people are spending more money on closed source frontier models than they are on open source, but they are generating more tokens on open source than closed source.
—— Chase Lochmiller · [49:15]

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前沿模型很了不起，但我没想到人们会如此在意真正地把成本优化好，为正确的任务使用正确的模型。
Frontier models are amazing, but I didn’t expect how much people would care about really cost-optimizing and using the right model for the right task.
—— Yash · [43:57]

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所以我认为，对今天大多数组织来说，现实是他们的企业工作负载并不需要前沿模型，几乎没有任何企业工作负载需要。
So I think the reality for most organizations today is that they don’t need frontier models for their enterprise workloads, like almost none of enterprise workloads.
—— Woodson Martin · [29:17]

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