聊天界面 (chat)
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- 《AI 时代的设计大洗牌:对话 Anthropic 设计负责人 Jenny Wen》(19:04起):本集把它说成：并不是临时的交互形态。交谈本身是一种跨越智力高低、完美适配模型能力增长的交互方式，开启了无限与模型协作的新范式。
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我认为巨大的转变在于,2024 年一代的产品是基于聊天的,而云端代码这一代的产品是基于行动的。
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I think the big shift is that the 2024 generation of products were chat-based and the cloud code generation of products is action-based
—— Kat Wu · [74:38]
我认为那些困在 ChatGPT 中的人还没有意识到，如果你在 Codex 中使用它，它可以连接到你所有的现有应用程序
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i think that people who are stuck in chat gpt haven’t realized that this can connect to all of your existing apps if you’re using it in codex
—— Akash · [00:39]
这就是那个错误。重要的不是聊天室,是网络。这里也是同样的道理:重要的不是文字和图片,是那项赋能技术。
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This is the mistake. It’s not the chat rooms. It’s the network. And it’s the same thing here. It’s not the text in the pictures. It’s the enabling technology.
—— Benedict Evans · [67:47]
你在这里看到的是，工程师交接暴露了一个结构性断裂，这是聊天纯度中的一个真正问题，即你可以创建一个文档，但你不能像 @ 提及或在另一个线程中引用它。
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And what you see here is that the engineer handoff exposed a structural break, which is a real issue in chat purity, which is you can create one document, but you can’t like at mention or reference it in another thread.
—— 嘉宾 · [16:34]
这显然是微调过来和人类交谈的，但我发现这散文，这聊天里的散文，简直让我血压飙升。
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This is clearly tuned to talk to humans, but I find the prose, the in-chat prose, like it makes my blood boil.
—— 嘉宾 · [15:35]
自 ChatGPT 以来，你基本上大约有 3 万亿美元需要偿还。
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You basically have about $3 trillion that needs to get paid back just since chat GPT.
—— David Cahn · [04:46]
他们发现，在每月 200 美元的 ChatGPT 订阅上，你可以烧掉价值 14,000 美元的 token。
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They found that on a 14,000 worth of tokens.
—— 嘉宾 · [12:40]
我们越来越感觉到,你想与智能体协作,而这些智能体在聊天框里并不太自在。
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it sort of increasingly felt that you wanted to work with agents, and those agents weren’t quite at home in a chat box.
—— Roshan · [02:05]
AI 开发中最大的罪过之一——我甚至见过专家也这么做——就是永远地养着一个聊天。
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One of the greatest sins in AI development, which I see even experts doing sometimes, is like nursing a chat forever.
—— Santi Garza · [34:56]
想象一下你和你的聊天机器人对话，但聊天里有一位真正持照的医学博士，他可以完全开处方、可以完全转诊、可以完全做出诊断。
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Like imagine chatting with your chatbot, but having an actual licensed MD in the chat who can fully prescribe, who can fully refer, who can fully diagnose.
—— Julie Yoo · [17:09]
一旦你开始突破「这是带有一组连接的 AI 聊天」的框架，转向「这是一个有电脑的同事」，它就直接抬高了你会想到交给 AI 的事情的上限。
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Once you start breaking out of, this is AI chat with a set of connections instead to, this is a colleague with a computer, it just raises the ceiling of what you would think to give to AI.
—— Roman Ugarte · [00:43]
聊天在某种程度上就是新的浏览器。
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The chat is the new browser in a way.
—— Demetrios Brinkmann · [42:08]
很大比例——我想说可能高达约 50%——的 Shopify 的 pull request（每次改动生产系统时写的东西）现在不是由传统意义上做工程工作的工程师创建的，而是来自我们公司公共聊天里的对话。
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It’s that a very large percentage, I want to say it’s probably up to about 50% of pull requests in Shopify, which again, pull requests every time you change the production system, you write a pull request, are created now not by engineers doing engineering work in the traditional sense, but out of conversations in our common company chat.
—— Tobi Lütke · [07:31]
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