Jon Noronha
① 他说过的话
16 条
我听过的对产品市场契合度最好的定义是:你不再把石头往山上推,而是开始追着往山下滚的石头跑。
指向原始笔记的链接
The best definition I’ve heard of product market fit is you stop pushing the rock up the hill and you start chasing the rock down the hill.
—— Jon Noronha · [05:31]
而现在我们实际上发现,我们设下的所有那些护栏,正在拖累这些聪明得多的 AI。
指向原始笔记的链接
Now what we’re finding actually is that all those guardrails we put in place are holding these much more intelligent AIs back.
—— Jon Noronha · [15:46]
所以我们现在处于一种模式,甚至不是在增加功能,而是试图把东西扔出去、放宽要求,让 AI 在整体上做更多的事。
指向原始笔记的链接
And so we’re now in a mode not of even adding functionality but trying to throw things out, loosen the requirements, and let AI do more overall.
—— Jon Noronha · [15:52]
我把 90% 的时间花在排版上,只有 10% 的时间花在内容上。
指向原始笔记的链接
was I spend 90% of my time on formatting and 10% of my time on content.
—— Jon Noronha · [13:16]
第一个是,仅仅因为我认为它更好,并不意味着用户认为它更好。
指向原始笔记的链接
The first one is that just because I think it’s better doesn’t mean the user think it’s better.
—— Jon Noronha · [18:06]
用数据做诊断,用设计做解决。
指向原始笔记的链接
you diagnose with data and solve with design.
—— Jon Noronha · [23:19]
我是说,这就是为什么我们现在有一场「SaaS 大末日」,因为它在质疑每一家软件公司的护城河。
指向原始笔记的链接
It is, I mean, this is why we have a SaaSpocalypse now, is it’s kind of questioning every software company’s moat.
—— Jon Noronha · [25:15]
特别是在 AI 模型快速进步的这个时代,这其实是一个非常健康的本能,因为你作为产品表面积构建得越少,AI 就越能在实际的空白地带里填补更多。
指向原始笔记的链接
And particularly in this world of rapidly advancing AI models, it’s actually a really healthy instinct because the less you build as product surface area, the more that the AI can actually fill in in actually the white space.
—— Jon Noronha · [28:25]
与放手让它充分发挥创造力相比,我们实际上在限制 AI 能做的事。
指向原始笔记的链接
We’re actually limiting what AI can do compared to just letting it loose with full creativity.
—— Jon Noronha · [39:02]
我认为最大的元学习是,AI 产品的商业化是一个移动的靶子。
指向原始笔记的链接
Well, I think the biggest meta-learning has been that monetizing AI products is a moving target.
—— Jon Noronha · [39:29]
重要的是曲线的斜率。而我认为那个斜率全是产品。
指向原始笔记的链接
What mattered was the slope of the curve. And I think that slope is all product.
—— Jon Noronha · [47:31]
我认为即使是一个由一千个 AI 智能体运营的组织,实际上也会碰到这种摩擦。
指向原始笔记的链接
I think even an org run by a thousand AI agents would actually hit this friction.
—— Jon Noronha · [49:11]
所以也许可以说,这是把工艺精简到它的本质:用心,但不占有。
指向原始笔记的链接
So maybe you could say that it’s pairing craft down to its essential, which is care without possessiveness.
—— Jon Noronha · [54:20]
哪怕别的什么都不做,也要做好新手引导,因为如果你能做好前五分钟,你就等于抓住了产品其余部分的价值主张。
指向原始笔记的链接
If you do nothing else, nail onboarding, because if you can nail the first five minutes, you’ve nailed the value prop of the rest of the product.
—— Jon Noronha · [57:27]
讽刺的是,我想说最快乐、最轻松的时候是我们完全没有产品市场契合度的时候,因为零 PMF 等于没有责任,拥有完全的创作自由。
指向原始笔记的链接
Ironically, I would say the happiest and easiest time was when we had zero product market fit because zero PMF equals no responsibilities, complete creative freedom.
—— Jon Noronha · [58:05]
而创业令人沮丧的地方在于,你连一周的时间待在山顶坐下来欣赏风景都得不到。
指向原始笔记的链接
And the frustrating thing about startups is you don’t get even a week at the very top to just sit and enjoy the view.
—— Jon Noronha · [59:09]
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